The first two years, '87 and '88, we passed the hat around, you know, and when they were standing there, say at Boy Scout Woods, and looking over the pond and watching the birds come in there and bathe, that was the migrating birds, and maybe feed (?), you know, dash out and get a bug or so and go up and get a mulberry and so we felt well now, those people are having a good time. Now maybe we could pass the hat.