SF: Yes, you know, and-and one day, I had been down at a city council meeting on this sign variance, and if necessary, would take my children who were all small with me and one thing and the other, and I walked into our back yard and looked up and realized that we had the biggest mess of telephone lines right in my back yard. And I called the telephone company and told them to come out, that we had to do something about it. I mean, you know, because once you see, I think it's like with many issues in the environment, once you see it, you see them every place. And once I saw that mess of the telephone line I had in my back yard, which was going on right at the same time of the sign dispute in Corpus Christi, I would see every telephone pole, I think, that was sort of mangled in the-in the whole community.