Ben Masters oral history - Ben Masters oral history

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  • OK, Ben, just resuming
  • where we were before.
  • We were talking about the
  • management of these mustangs
  • in the West and the
  • frustrations that you
  • have had with them and some of the
  • proponents.
  • And I was curious if you have
  • anything that you'd like to add
  • while we're on that topic.
  • Well, I think that
  • is one of those deals where
  • the, the issue is so
  • complex,
  • and the finger pointing game
  • is always out there,
  • and
  • it can be
  • sometimes tempting, I think, to
  • blame the animals for a lot of the
  • ecological destruction that's
  • happening.
  • But it's not them.
  • Like most animals, the are going to
  • do what they need to do to
  • make a living, like all of us.
  • And they're not
  • the ones to blame.
  • It's,
  • it's our,
  • I think, our
  • inability
  • oftentimes, as a society,
  • to be, as a society, to be proactive
  • about good management, good land
  • management decisions,
  • and instead to be reactive
  • and only act during crises.
  • But
  • if you want to help out
  • that issue, there
  • is an organization based here
  • in Georgetown called the Mustang
  • Heritage Foundation, that
  • you can donate money to and they'll
  • help get horses adopted, or
  • you can contact them and you can
  • adopt your own horse, if you have
  • land, if you
  • are interested in getting a wild
  • horse.
  • I mean, they could be awesome,
  • awesome horses.
  • I've got five of them.
  • I've got a little girl that's 15
  • months old. She rides one around.
  • Like they're super gentle.
  • They're great horses,
  • after they've had enough
  • training.
  • But
  • yeah, you can, you can help out the
  • issue, especially on an individual
  • level.
  • That's kind of where I left the,
  • that particular topic
  • is, I realized that, at the
  • end of the day, for things to change
  • with wild horse and burro,
  • it's going to have to be at a very
  • high political level
  • and not,
  • you know, some 20 year old kid
  • with a dream wanting to ride horses
  • across the country to change
  • the world.
  • That's what happened, so I moved on
  • to other things.
  • Well, let's talk
  • about those things that you've moved
  • on to do. I know you've got "Deep
  • in the Heart,
  • you know, in the, in post-production
  • now. Can you talk a little bit about
  • where that is at, and maybe
  • any upcoming projects
  • you've been thinking about?
  • Yeah, so right now, we're three
  • years into production for a film
  • called "Deep in the Heart", which
  • is a Planet
  • Earth type of movie where it's
  • just wildlife with
  • narration behind it that's
  • showcasing a lot of the really
  • spectacular species
  • that we have here in Texas, as
  • well as some of the big,
  • some of the big issues that we have
  • here in the state.
  • And we're wrapping
  • up the edit, and it'll be out in
  • a handful of months, in April.
  • Very exciting.
  • And do you have space
  • in your mind to think about things
  • beyond that - new
  • film project or book projects?
  • Oh yeah, I always got something
  • cooking.
  • We're launching straight into a
  • 50-minute film for ocelots,
  • for PBS Nature.
  • Very nice.
  • Yeah. Just curious where this
  • ocelot film would be shot, is this
  • mostly in South Texas and northern
  • Mexico or beyond?
  • Yeah, it's going to focus on the
  • Texas population.
  • So we're going to be down,
  • down in the Port Mansfield area,
  • down there in the brush.
  • Great.
  • Well, I wish you the best with that.
  • I'm so glad you're documenting all
  • this, and telling these stories, and
  • reaching out to people.
  • That's so important.
  • Well, you've been kind to talk
  • to us today. Is there anything you'd
  • like to add about
  • about your life to-date?
  • You're just a young man, but you've
  • done a lot and particularly
  • if there are any insights about
  • mustangs that that you might leave
  • this with.
  • You know, I think I think I went
  • through it all,
  • pretty well.
  • Yeah, I appreciate the opportunity
  • to be on. I can't think of anything
  • that's really at the top
  • of my mind to
  • leave as a final note.
  • OK, we'll just have to watch your
  • movies.
  • Thank you very much, Ben.
  • It's always a pleasure to cross
  • paths with you and learn what you're
  • up to.
  • Thank you.
  • Likewise, my friend, you keep,
  • keep making history.
  • I listen to other people making
  • history, but I appreciate
  • your kind words.
  • All right, have a good one.
  • All right. Bye, Ben.